Tutorialz...

[Spyder]

someone at least make a "getting started" tutorial *eek

[DESTRUCTION]

someone at least make a "getting started" tutorial *eek

[Bukowski]

I guess ya don't care for Sardo's little help corner..or whatever the fuck he named it.

[DESTRUCTION]

his gay superedit tut sucks ass,


and god files are the most simplest thing ever to learn on ur own olmost as easy as adding(not even kidding)

[Bukowski]

Sard is a strange guy, but ya got to give him credit for dedication to the game, even if it's half assed shit most of the time.
I once was thinking that if Sard never found Gore he would prolly be dead now..it seems like thats all he lives for.
Pretty worthless really.

But I'm not burning any bridges, if I ever make it back to Holland (went to Amsterdam once..party heaven!) I may look him up and toss back a few hundred drinks with the guy :D .

[Spyder]

LOL yeah, he is kindof dodge. I don't get why he's depressed because he lacks a sense of purpose and doesn't date anybody...and yet doesn't realize that it's because he doesn't have a job :L

But yeah his tuts (and the FC tuts) were/are horrible. I'm not even going to try looking at them again.

I just think a quick tut on a few things to get people started would be nice...like the best view configuration, quick keys, how big to make things (perspectives), etc.

I'll probably end up deleting this section next month because nothing has even been started with any maps...we all know didlz lacks the drive to finish anything, much less start this LOL :P

[Diddlez]

I think ill delete your nut sack kthnx.

[Spyder]

How about you administrate my taint (with your tongue) *moth.!.

[Stix]

Open Source For Establishing A Connection To A Gore Server.

[Spyder]

what could this be used for? (probably should have made a new thread btw)

[Stix]

got bored.

[DarkSpoon]

got bored and... what? took a SS of gore? im lost.

[NinjaGator]

he made a piece of shit UI; what it looks like to me.

[Stix]

ninja, u r correct sir.

[m@nc0w]

[NinjaGator]

Ren and Stimpy ftw.

[Spyder]

^^ lol was gonna say the same.


IMO the glow in the dark UI is kinda cool etc.

[Stix]

aw man, i've been having fun with yahoo lately, they update'd their protocols and i've been working on cracking it, took me a bit but i finally did it. for all u coder's out there i know u can understand the brain power behind this.

Data Flow is as follows:

FIRST:
Yahoo Messenger sends a CHALLENGE request packet with USERNAME
Yahoo Server Replys with CHALLENGE

NEXT:
Yahoo Messenger Connects Via Secure Socket Layer v2 to https://login.yahoo.com/config/pwtoken_get?src=ymsgr&ts=&login=USERNAME&passwd=PASSWORD&chal=CHALLENGE
Yahoo Server Replys with TOKEN
Yahoo Messenger Connects Via Secure Socket Layer v2 to https://login.yahoo.com/config/pwtoken_login?src=ymsgr&ts=&token=TOKEN
Yahoo Server Replys with CRUMB that is sent in a packet later in the login process

NEXT:
CHALLENGE & TOKEN are joined as one string "NEWSTRING"
NEWSTRING is Encrypted Via MD5 to make "NEWSTRING2"

NEXT:
The First 24bytes of NEWSTRING2 are Encrpted Via Base64 to make "ALMOSTDONE"

NEXT:
padding in ALMOSTDONE is replaced (((Ex: Replace("+", ".") Replace("/", "_") Replace("=", "-") ))) to make "AUTHSTRING"
AUTHSTRING is now the new Encrypted string required for Yahoo login

anyone who plays with yahoo and is interested in this post contact me to speak more about it

BTW ^not even gaim or trillian knows that yet. YEY ME! etc etc

[Stix]

IMO the glow in the dark UI is kinda cool etc.

i think anything that glows is neat, i didn't edit the ui @ all, just a few .mat files to apply the glow. it looks really cool with that hearthud shit

[N9ne]

i think the glow is cool on the hud, the tab screen would bug me, anyways good work.

[Stix]

EDITED BY DEADLY

I know you had good intentions, but I dont want this in a public forum. I really CBF idiots saying they learned how to make glow skins from our forums (and its real easy to do from what you posted).

[THE 49er]

HgSYENFlKVNEo7342KwR3-F,V=?.1

?WTF?

[Boombostik]

Why would you do that? I mean can you give me an honest reason?

[Stix]

well, i wasnt trying to teach how to make glowskins, but heh. i see what your saying.

[Spyder]

BTW ^not even gaim or trillian knows that yet. YEY ME! etc etc
I hope you've emailed them/posted on their forum and are working with them. TBVH, if you cracked it before them...you should be putting that kinda talent to good use that will benefit lots of people rather than just yourself.


I didn't really think about you applying glowskins to the hud tbvh. LOL I guess that just goes to show how much I know about them in the firstplace *eek I'm glad deadly caught your post...although I don't think GS is that big of a deal, I don't want to even know how to do it because I just want nothing to do with any of it. You could call me a boy scout of Gore, but certainly everyone realizes how long one small tarnish on your reputation lasts in this game.

[KMS]

BTW ^not even gaim or trillian knows that yet. YEY ME! etc etc

I dunno trillian site still says this:


Trillian™ is a fully featured, stand-alone, skinnable chat client that supports AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo Messenger, and IRC.

oe noe, stix is gonna crash yahoo. lol

[Stix]

trillian supports the older yahoo protocol, not the new one @ KMS.

Dave: GS can be applied to anything, even walls etc. i like it.
kinda cool to take a maps .mat file and make the whole map neon.
anyway, it aint bad but ppl who play this game are tight ass's and cry about alot of shit so eh.

you wrote: I hope you've emailed them/posted on their forum and are working with them. TBVH, if you cracked it before them...you should be putting that kinda talent to good use that will benefit lots of people rather than just yourself.

i put it to good use all the time.

i released it here didnt i?
doesn't it benefit the ppl of this forum?

i even showed ppl how the network code for gore works so they can make helper things like "a constant server admin to monitor things like tk's and such and kick the losers" <-just one of the good use's. so you see it's not just for me. it's for US.
FUBU bitches

[KMS]

trillian supports the older yahoo protocol, not the new one @ KMS.

But if they've even tried for 10 minutes they would at least see what you've seen. If you fire up Yahoo Messenger, and launch ethereal to sniff the packets, it should show u the challeng/response. I would assume the login is only one change of the protocol. Which is prolly why they wouldn't have it all working yet.


i even showed ppl how the network code for gore works so they can make helper things like "a constant server admin to monitor things like tk's and such and kick the losers" <-just one of the good use's. so you see it's not just for me. it's for US.
FUBU bitches

but u only looked into the gamespy portion, which was already done by someone else. How would u propose monitoring TK's? By the in-game messaging system to gamespy? I don't get it.

Fine and all that you like to tinker, but cbf the delusions.

[Stix]

KMS dont act like your smart etc.

for the smart ppl here:

the ALGORITHUM is what i figured out, the packets are obvious, HOWEVER. you cant just "sniff" SSL data. that was another thing i had to figure out.

on a side note in gore when a person is shot OR does any shooting a packet is sent and BROADCASTED to every single player in the server
in other words if PLAYER1 and PLAYER2 are on the same team and PLAYER1 sends a SHOOTING packet and PLAYER2 took a hit then PLAYER1 is trying to tk and a COUNTER of how many times PLAYER1 shot PLAYER2 would be set so if PLAYER1 shot PLAYER2 more then..lets say "10" times then PLAYER1 is a TK'r and will be BANNED.

PS. dont be such an idiot u stupid fuck. go troll on someone else

[Stix]

this post is to apolagize for the above angary postz

sry for the second post etc. but ppl who dont know what they are talking about should just stfu.

BTW "in-game messageing system to gamespy" ? are you a retard the only time the GS network is used is when searching for the server ip#'s
what i wrote has to do with how to connect to those servers, not how to connect with gamespy. the only thing even envole'n gamespy is the way the cd-keys are made and checked. when connecting to a server you send your cd-key to the server, not to the gamespy network. the SERVER checks with the gs network to validate the key, so thats all the connection between what i wrote an the gamespy network.

i really hope you learned something KMS/ Kaiser Mozilla Soze @s7. and in the future i hope you dont say the wrong thing to the wrong person and get your ass beat or ddos'd/smurfed.

ANYWAY: as Dr.Phill would say: it's okay to be a dumbass, it's okay.

[Stix]

kinda funny how i got no more reply's to this thread after i said KMS was dumb etc. lets keep it moving ppl nothing to see here!

[DESTRUCTION]

not trying to offend you or anything im cool with you, but you basically just were being an ass to kaiser for no reason *moth.

that is probably why no one else replied... ur worse than me when typing with anger lol... atleast i can hide it :P

[Spyder]

this post is to apolagize for the above angary postz

sry for the second post etc. but ppl who dont know what they are talking about should just stfu.
lol cbf apologizing for an angary post and then going on to continue to berate him :S Kaiser is smart IMO and a pretty cool guy. Out of line to attack him like that IMO.

Plus cbf patting urself on the back for destroying the thread's activity because you wanted to be an asshole.

*msaman

[Stix]

lol cbf apologizing for an angary post and then going on to continue to berate him

only because i felt as if he was berate'n me(notice with every post he has a smartass reply about how easy the shit is)
IMO
he may be a smart guy i guess. but he had no idea what he was talking about. that makes him smart?

[Spyder]

Yeah I know he was being sarcastic in his posts - I caught that too...but he didn't call names once, much less as much as you did to him, u know?

In those situations it's best to take the high road I suppose. Explain why he is wrong and show that he doesn't know what he's talking about without having to name call which doesn't do anything but create hostility - which isn't wanted unless that hostility comes from Saman, Creative, Dest, etc (then it's not only wanted but supported and perpetuated!)

[DESTRUCTION]

fuck you spyder you fist fucked lubricated chode smoker

[Carnage]

fuck you spyder you fist fucked lubricated chode smoker

emo :P

[DESTRUCTION]

fuck you spyder you fist fucked lubricated chode smoker

emo :P

indeed :D

[Stix]

fuck you spyder you fist fucked lubricated chode smoker

emo :P

indeed :D

indeed

[Spyder]

fuck you spyder you fist fucked lubricated chode smoker
I'm going to take the high road *no

(and ban u)

[DESTRUCTION]

DO IT, ILL BENCH PRESS YOU *eek

[NinjaGator]

DO IT, ILL BENCH PRESS YOU *eek

Sounds like a gay sex position where you line up the guys wang to your mouth and move him like you would while benching. In other words, this position is perfect for you danny. :P

[Boombostik]

DO IT, ILL BENCH PRESS YOU *eek

Sounds like a gay sex position where you line up the guys wang to your mouth and move him like you would while benching. In other words, this position is perfect for you danny. :P
LOL, OWNED

[DESTRUCTION]

seems to me like that would be Tea baggin. :L


but yeah u got me :gay:

[MasterOfPuppets]

rofl ninja, so creative *cmoth

[NinjaGator]

tea baggin involves the nutsack, not the wang. And there's usually no bench pressing going on.

[Spyder]

rofl ninja, so creative *cmoth
Really? Or just experienced *saman

[NinjaGator]

You'd know best spydar! *msaman *seek

[Stix]

here's a new one to add to the list of crap

was really bored and i made this app

^rhyme

[Spyder]

How did you get all those bots to connect without unique CD keys for each?

[m@nc0w]

How did you get all those bots to connect without unique CD keys for each?
I was wondering the same thing...

[MasterOfPuppets]

How did you get all those bots to connect without unique CD keys for each?
I was wondering the same thing...
^

[DarkSpoon]

he can brute force cd keys. or they're just bots.

[m@nc0w]

he can brute force cd keys. or they're just bots.
All I have seen is him claim he can and a cute lil' GUI he made, as for proof he has shown 0

[N9ne]

rofl ninja, so creative *cmoth
Really? Or just experienced *saman


Or was he really saying that he takes a creative type persona *cmoth

[DarkSpoon]

he can brute force cd keys. or they're just bots.
All I have seen is him claim he can and a cute lil' GUI he made, as for proof he has shown 0



well yeah but i just figured if hes going to do bullshit hes going to use his other bullshit stories too.

[Stix]

actually your all wrong, it only needs 1 cd-key, i wrote it so it instantly d/c's after it's sent all the data needed for join. then it re-joins again. and so on etc etc. so only 1 cd-key is needed. it's SUPER fast and REALLY funny cuz ppl cant see the ip. only way to notice the ip# is to look into the server console app. i got bored and made it the other day. right now i'm just writing in some config support so it can save data and join with whatever name or a list of names. plus i made a function to randomize the coloring and i found a few characters that aren't supported in gore and it really looks weird when it joins.

[Stix]

as for proof he has shown 0

didnt i release the source code needed to check cd-keys?


proof you say?


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.


.


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and.



ROFLYOURDUMBETCETC

[DESTRUCTION]

lol that server ddoser looks like something id have fun with :D...

[Spyder]

Please uninstall Gore, Dest *moth

[DarkSpoon]

dest and stix should go start there own clan. and get gay married.

[Spyder]

ROFL @ "get gay married"

That was awesome. Truth though. Duno why they don't just start their own hax clan and do whatever they want rather than wanting to drag NWP down.

[Stix]

how do i drag nwp down again?

[DarkSpoon]

by posting all that crap here. start your own hack forums.

[KMS]

didnt i release the source code needed to check cd-keys?


Didn't someone else already write that code? Or did you add a GUI to it and call it ur own?

lol @ the drama I missed.

I admit I didn't read ur post thoroughly before about the SSL traffic. I do tend to not read ur post thoroughly as it is usually painful to read. I also tend to jump to other conclusions about you, but I'll just leave it at that.

[Stix]

actually i think you failed to read again..

luigi stated how it was done, he did NOT openly release ANY code.

plz dont start your trolling bullshit on me as you have already shown that you speak more than you actually understand. that is all, thanks.

[KMS]

actually i think you failed to read again..

luigi stated how it was done, he did NOT openly release ANY code.

plz dont start your trolling bullshit on me as you have already shown that you speak more than you actually understand. that is all, thanks.

You mean he didn't release this under the GPL? That's strange cause I'm looking at the code right now, here's a snippet:

"Gore Fake Players DoS "VER"\n"
"by Luigi Auriemma\n"

I guess it's conceivable that you rewrote something similar w/o seeing this, but...

He's released several pieces of code exploiting GameSpy and even Gore specifically, so you are clearly wrong in that regard.

[Stix]

actually i havent seen it, could you post a link?


nevermind, i found it. thnx for the info i never saw this before and i will put it to good use.

[DarkSpoon]

oh i see what you did there. you put quotes on good. very clever. (N) .!.

[Spyder]

Duno why they don't just start their own hax clan and do whatever they want rather than wanting to drag NWP down.

how do i drag nwp down again?
I meant by wanting to join NWP and then hack.

I personally CBF haxing and don't want to be in a haxing clan.

[Stix]

LOL ITS A HAX FORUM! I'M DRAGGING DOWN THE NWP COMMUNITY

[Diddlez]

LOL ITS A HAX FORUM! I'M DRAGGING DOWN THE NWP COMMUNITY

I really dont see the fun in using something like that, but whatever. I guess thats pretty good if you made that.

[m@nc0w]

No offense to you guys but maybe it's time you change the name of this forums (taking the "a shitstorm of hax" out). I mean in a way having that in the name just gives people like Stix the idea to post actual haxes here (making your job harder as you have to do what you really dont' want to do = moderate).

[Stix]

heh, cbf u delete'n my shit deadly. ^posted more then that pic etc.

i like that cheat the best, it toggles wireframe mode thru .dll hook injection to gore. with wireframe mode u can see everything alot better then with the opengl hack.

[Diddlez]

heh, cbf u delete'n my shit deadly. ^posted more then that pic etc.

i like that cheat the best, it toggles wireframe mode thru .dll hook injection to gore. with wireframe mode u can see everything alot better then with the opengl hack.

If you want to use your hax thats fine, nothing anyone can do to stop you, but just dont post that stuff on here for others to download. As soon as that stuff spreads to someone like Milad, half of Gore will be using it within a few days.

[m@nc0w]

lol poor Stix, the "Admins" just keep catching him whether he's ingame or in a forums :P

[Acromus]

STIX KEEP YOUR SHIT AWAY FROM OUR SERVER !!!

[DarkSpoon]

Stix

74.129.3.199 [ 50 Posts ]

74.129.57.219 [ 15 Posts ]

74.129.45.4 [ 14 Posts ]

208.102.72.151 [ 6 Posts ]

74.129.14.7 [ 3 Posts ]

208.102.73.64 [ 1 Post ]

208.102.75.179 [ 1 Post ]

69.61.245.34 [ 1 Post]


just incase you didnt have it.

[Stix]

lol that wasn't me. if you would have looked, i was busy PLAYING in that server @ the time.

four other ppl have it, and they prolly gave it out too.

btw i was playing as "ward" so ppl wouldnt spew out stupidity @ me.

darkfag, you forgot to add this ip. if i really wanted to play in a server bad enough i would just find a socks5 server on the same netblock as an admin. this way they ban me they ban themselves. i really wish you'd fuckoff with your attitude towards me. i've never said a thing to you darkshithead so stop your P.M.S'n k? thnx

[N9ne]

lol that wasn't me. if you would have looked, i was busy PLAYING in that server @ the time.

four other ppl have it, and they prolly gave it out too.

btw i was playing as "ward" so ppl wouldnt spew out stupidity @ me.


Ive also seen you play and have it running, so shove it thx

[Stix]

9mm your so full of shit.

[N9ne]

9mm your so full of shit.

Im more believable then someone who hacks and lies all the time.

Considering i've seen you run it, then start playing while its running.


so you can talk that full of shit, and shove it right back in your face lawl (probably what you used to anywayz)

[DESTRUCTION]

[Stix]

lol wtf is that pic from danny? i've never seen a t-rex flying an f-16 before.

[MasterOfPuppets]

lol wtf is that pic from danny? i've never seen a t-rex flying an f-16 before.
Then you sir, have never lived.

[DESTRUCTION]

lol wtf is that pic from danny? i've never seen a t-rex flying an f-16 before.
Then you sir, have never lived.

[m@nc0w]

9mm your so full of shit.

Im more believable then someone who hacks and lies all the time.

Considering i've seen you run it, then start playing while its running.


so you can talk that full of shit, and shove it right back in your face lawl (probably what you used to anywayz)
I would have to agree 100%. I mean he already showed that he can do both (be ingame and load the program)...

SS he posted not to long ago:

[MasterOfPuppets]

Owned.

[DarkSpoon]

gg

[Creative]

Owned.

[son of gump]

chicken.

[Stix]

that ss was of a private lan server and i was in observer mode (not playing) etc.

[DESTRUCTION]

chicken.

[Diddlez]

penis.

[Spyder]

Stix, if you don't want to be blamed for it...why did you give it out to four people? Much less four people who you know will probably give it out? Since you made it and distributed it...everytime they run it, you are automatically going to be blamed for it or get a degree of blame whether or not everyone knows it is someone else is running it or not.

I don't get why you want to take the game down so bad. It's getting to a point where nobody can run a private server anymore. That kinda feels like a direct attack on each and every one of us...so it feels personal to me. I guess destroying a game's already small community is a feather in your cap, but ffs...if that's what you wanted, you won the first day you started because we all KNOW Joel/4D isn't going to do a damn thing to fix the vulnerabilities you are exploiting and showing others how to exploit. CBF that I just about have to quit the only game I play. Thanks a lot.

I didn't mind you making this stuff in the name of your own studies...but the day you gave it to your friends (idiot kids like Milad, no doubt) you effectively ruined the game for most of us. You do this crap whilst wondering why DS, 9mm, M@nc0w, and others call you out any chance they get...ffs take some responsibility.

[DarkSpoon]

Stix, if you don't want to be blamed for it...why did you give it out to four people? Much less four people who you know will probably give it out? Since you made it and distributed it...everytime they run it, you are automatically going to be blamed for it or get a degree of blame whether or not everyone knows it is someone else is running it or not.

I don't get why you want to take the game down so bad. It's getting to a point where nobody can run a private server anymore. That kinda feels like a direct attack on each and every one of us...so it feels personal to me. I guess destroying a game's already small community is a feather in your cap, but ffs...if that's what you wanted, you won the first day you started because we all KNOW Joel/4D isn't going to do a damn thing to fix the vulnerabilities you are exploiting and showing others how to exploit. CBF that I just about have to quit the only game I play. Thanks a lot.

I didn't mind you making this stuff in the name of your own studies...but the day you gave it to your friends (idiot kids like Milad, no doubt) you effectively ruined the game for most of us. You do this crap whilst wondering why DS, 9mm, M@nc0w, and others call you out any chance they get...ffs take some responsibility.

Truth.

[m@nc0w]

Stix, if you don't want to be blamed for it...why did you give it out to four people? Much less four people who you know will probably give it out? Since you made it and distributed it...everytime they run it, you are automatically going to be blamed for it or get a degree of blame whether or not everyone knows it is someone else is running it or not.

I don't get why you want to take the game down so bad. It's getting to a point where nobody can run a private server anymore. That kinda feels like a direct attack on each and every one of us...so it feels personal to me. I guess destroying a game's already small community is a feather in your cap, but ffs...if that's what you wanted, you won the first day you started because we all KNOW Joel/4D isn't going to do a damn thing to fix the vulnerabilities you are exploiting and showing others how to exploit. CBF that I just about have to quit the only game I play. Thanks a lot.

I didn't mind you making this stuff in the name of your own studies...but the day you gave it to your friends (idiot kids like Milad, no doubt) you effectively ruined the game for most of us. You do this crap whilst wondering why DS, 9mm, M@nc0w, and others call you out any chance they get...ffs take some responsibility.

Truth.

^ Bump!

[Stix]

well, i gave it out to friends as a (proof of concept) type of deal. but heh. i actually stopped working on it about 2 weeks ago and started working on a method for new game types and admin funtions thru .dll hook injection because you fags said "make us a ZOMBIE mode" so thats what i've been doing.

and if your going to quit gore then do it. i'll just laugh @ you and keep doing my own thing. no big deal.

kthnx

[DESTRUCTION]

u should hop on MSN more, i had a mod idea that i started workin on with sard way back beforei got banned on 4d.

it was the shockrifle from unreal(mainly the shock combo idea) but that required some coding, maybe you could do something to make it happen, i can do god filesno problem, the coding is what i cant do :S


meh youre one person, cbf askin for so much..

Zombie mode/ Bombing run kind of thing sounds good to me :D

[N9ne]

u should hop on MSN more, i had a mod idea that i started workin on with sard way back beforei got banned on 4d.

it was the shockrifle from unreal(mainly the shock combo idea) but that required some coding, maybe you could do something to make it happen, i can do god filesno problem, the coding is what i cant do :S


meh youre one person, cbf askin for so much..

Zombie mode/ Bombing run kind of thing sounds good to me :D


Its cool, we've seen him multi-task *moth

[DarkSpoon]

loool (Y)

[Stix]

*Was reading forums today and took a look into 4d's. Saw mancow's post.

the thing i cant seem to grasp is why you try soo hard to get me banned and make ppl dislike me. when the fact is if you got to know me instead of shunning me all the time you might actually think the things i do are funny and just learn to move along and keep playing. but i think i can understand why you struggle so much with it. maybe it's because i test your limits too often? or maybe it's because you just can't stand the fact that i can do these things? either way i think i'm done. thats right i said it.

i'm done( i wont be make'n anything for gore anymore ) it's pointless now. I know everything about it( all the exploits and all the sturctures )

so,...this isnt exactly an apology but heh.

Sorry everyone for fucking up your game so much. I was just curious is all (i have a habbit with wanting to know how things work and exploiting them)

i think i'll still play. but thats all i'll do.
and mancow(or anyone else) if you would please post this line on the 4d forums i would appreciate it

JOEL/LEAD i have found many exploits in your game and i have methods to fix them if you dont mind speaking with me on the subject. my email is josh_shivers@hotmail.com

well. thats all (dont be too stunned by this post i just finally got tired of this is all) THNX

[DESTRUCTION]

ive been through this shit before stix(except for the appologizing part)


but just to let ya know, since you already did what you did, idiots will still label you as a hacker/ exploiter etc. as far as i know though you didnt really create cheats you created things to annoy people/servers with.


you should still code zombie/bombing run imo :P

[DarkSpoon]

ffs dest why dont you just go ahead and blow shivers. im tired of seeing you grovel at his feet because you two somehow connect on some level we dont see. its like seeing a bully and his friends who will always agree with him just because they want to be his friend. STFU already.

[DESTRUCTION]

i just dont have a problem with him like some other people do that doesnt mean im kissing ass

[N9ne]

*Was reading forums today and took a look into 4d's. Saw mancow's post.

the thing i cant seem to grasp is why you try soo hard to get me banned and make ppl dislike me. when the fact is if you got to know me instead of shunning me all the time you might actually think the things i do are funny and just learn to move along and keep playing. but i think i can understand why you struggle so much with it. maybe it's because i test your limits too often? or maybe it's because you just can't stand the fact that i can do these things? either way i think i'm done. thats right i said it.

i'm done( i wont be make'n anything for gore anymore ) it's pointless now. I know everything about it( all the exploits and all the sturctures )

so,...this isnt exactly an apology but heh.

Sorry everyone for fucking up your game so much. I was just curious is all (i have a habbit with wanting to know how things work and exploiting them)

i think i'll still play. but thats all i'll do.
and mancow(or anyone else) if you would please post this line on the 4d forums i would appreciate it

JOEL/LEAD i have found many exploits in your game and i have methods to fix them if you dont mind speaking with me on the subject. my email is josh_shivers@hotmail.com

well. thats all (dont be too stunned by this post i just finally got tired of this is all) THNX


You know this wont get you into the pearly gates of gore right, even if you came here thinking it will, just waiting for someone to call you out, I just did. Pretty sure you are going to retaliate as in "NO I DIDN'T WANT TO BE ACCEPTED WAS JUST INFORMING" cause i ruined your plans of us being like "awww he is being nicer now"

gg still at the bottom.

[Diddlez]

Dont worry Stix, I've been at the bottom of the Gore community for years and It hasn't stopped me from displaying my total domination in this game.

[DESTRUCTION]

same as above.... except im not dominating in game anymore cuz i play every once in a blue moon *moth

[Stix]

DARKSPOON WROTE:
ffs dest why dont you just go ahead and blow shivers.
I WRITE:
lol, i wouldnt mind if he did or didn't (i'm not shivers i'm stix)
DEST PROBABLY WRITES:
i'm not gay like 9mm, i dont blow ppl
9MM PROBABLY WRITES:
i always say the same things and love to argue
BOBDOLE PROBABLY WRITES:
bobdole bobdole bobdole bobdole bobdole bobdole

etc. kthnx

[DarkSpoon]

same person imo.

[DESTRUCTION]

PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME

[Spyder]

and if your going to quit gore then do it. i'll just laugh @ you and keep doing my own thing. no big deal.
I don't think you realize my level of stubbornness. I would go out of my way to buy a server, password it, and email everyone I like the server password just to keep you and your friends out before I would quit.

As far as the apology-ish, I'm down with it. Like I've said many times in the past (and in this thread), it's fine with me that you want to find this stuff. I don't even mind if you test it in a server full of people...but AFTER that, it should go up to Joel/4D (preferably with a fix) and get that squared away. That would probably be pretty useful if GoreAV takes off especially.

If anybody can turn around their reputation, it's you. You have a lot of skills in coding, obviously...so making a new game mode and fixing the code exploits is immensely positive for the community. There would still be people out there who don't like you and say you're a hacker - but that's the bed you made for yourself, right? You won't be able to win everyone over, but not everybody is going to like anybody anyways. Even with your tarnished reputation ATM, more people like you than Destruction...so at least you have something to build off of...especially since you're a cool guy in TS and everyone gets along with you there.

Thank you for coming around. I hope this lasts...and I hope it transcends into some positive stuff (like fixes BEYOND the haxes you made and perhaps that new game mode if you want to finish it still). (Y)*moth

[Stix]

actually lead emailed me and so we talked and i told him alot of issues with gore and ways to fix them as far as the BEYOND i told him of an interesting way to stop WALLHACKS by make'n gore AV recreate the opengl32.dll during runtime(this would stop the fake opengl .dll's) and stop wallhacks. BTW: about you buying a server. WTF IS TAKING YOU SO LONG TO OPEN DUREX SERVER? geez(lazy imo).


Zombie Mode:
i want to wait for gore AV cause whats the point if everyone is playing gore AV? i'll just finish my code when gore AV is out

[Spyder]

BTW: about you buying a server. WTF IS TAKING YOU SO LONG TO OPEN DUREX SERVER? geez(lazy imo).
+ BROXE ATM *eek

I want to do it, but I don't want to have to go any more in debt than I am atm just for a game server. Tough timez fer spyder friend. There are no computer jobs atm (except for one I put my resume in for) and no moniez 2 move etc :S


Zombie Mode:
i want to wait for gore AV cause whats the point if everyone is playing gore AV? i'll just finish my code when gore AV is out
I duno...do you have to modify Gore's hard code programming or whatever? This probably could be installed as a mod...and if Joel/4D like it enough, adapted into the Auto Update bsery.

I figure since GoreAV is just Gore with ads...might as well finish it up ATM and it won't be difficult at all to port it over to GoreAV. If you finish early, Gore could be a good testing ground etc.

If you're really doing this, I'm GODDAMN STOKED for it tbh. That game mode sounds sweet and would rox in Gore. I added you to my MSN 2 talk over such matters etc (Y)

[KMS]

I want to do it, but I don't want to have to go any more in debt than I am atm just for a game server. Tough timez fer spyder friend. There are no computer jobs atm (except for one I put my resume in for) and no moniez 2 move etc :S

Thought u had a job. It seems like you keep saying this over and over. I'm gonna start calling you Joel.
I guess u can take the kid out of nebraska, but u can't take the nebraska outta the kid. lolol


I duno...do you have to modify Gore's hard code programming or whatever? This probably could be installed as a mod...and if Joel/4D like it enough, adapted into the Auto Update bsery.

I figure since GoreAV is just Gore with ads...might as well finish it up ATM and it won't be difficult at all to port it over to GoreAV. If you finish early, Gore could be a good testing ground etc.


I don't see how ur gonna do this for GoreAV when there will probably be no SDK for an ad-supported game. Best chance is to do it with Gore, and it becomes popular enuff, they would put it in GoreAV.

[Snooperz]

Thought u had a job. It seems like you keep saying this over and over. I'm gonna start calling you Joel.
I guess u can take the kid out of nebraska, but u can't take the nebraska outta the kid. lolol

LOL *eek

Get rich already Spyder... geez. :(

[Stix]

kms, it's done thru .dll hook injection(this method works without an sdk) i just have to wait for it to come out and then view it's Dependencies and API functions. thats all.

[Spyder]

I want to do it, but I don't want to have to go any more in debt than I am atm just for a game server. Tough timez fer spyder friend. There are no computer jobs atm (except for one I put my resume in for) and no moniez 2 move etc :S

Thought u had a job. It seems like you keep saying this over and over. I'm gonna start calling you Joel.
I guess u can take the kid out of nebraska, but u can't take the nebraska outta the kid. lolol
Contract work. It comes and goes...typically one will pay off bills and such. Pretty much all PHP/web contracts on the internet goes to people who can barely speak english (aka India) so it's not any use trying to get any work outside of the local area...which doesn't have much to go around. For some reason, every business likes to go over to the local shitty ISP that does web sites as well. Horrid sites...shitty service...etc. But this is a pretty conservative part of California and every business owner is super loyal to their business friends. It's hard enough to get ANY job around here because they prefer to hire their own (the people who grew up here).


Thanks for making sure to go out of your way to kick me when I'm down. It's not like I don't already feel like absolute shit that I can barely pay my bills already. Nope...the Vegan from San Francisco is clearly a class act and has to be a prick about it (which you seem to be more and more of as time goes by).

[N9ne]

I want to do it, but I don't want to have to go any more in debt than I am atm just for a game server. Tough timez fer spyder friend. There are no computer jobs atm (except for one I put my resume in for) and no moniez 2 move etc :S

Thought u had a job. It seems like you keep saying this over and over. I'm gonna start calling you Joel.
I guess u can take the kid out of nebraska, but u can't take the nebraska outta the kid. lolol
Contract work. It comes and goes...typically one will pay off bills and such. Pretty much all PHP/web contracts on the internet goes to people who can barely speak english (aka India) so it's not any use trying to get any work outside of the local area...which doesn't have much to go around. For some reason, every business likes to go over to the local shitty ISP that does web sites as well. Horrid sites...shitty service...etc. But this is a pretty conservative part of California and every business owner is super loyal to their business friends. It's hard enough to get ANY job around here because they prefer to hire their own (the people who grew up here).


Thanks for making sure to go out of your way to kick me when I'm down. It's not like I don't already feel like absolute shit that I can barely pay my bills already. Nope...the Vegan from San Francisco is clearly a class act and has to be a prick about it (which you seem to be more and more of as time goes by).


Pretty sure he was kidding spyder, <3 u tho

[Spyder]

And I'm fairly sure that I made it apparent that I don't take it as a joke. I know he thought it was funny but it was a prick joke, which is the only joke he likes to make.

[KMS]

I want to do it, but I don't want to have to go any more in debt than I am atm just for a game server. Tough timez fer spyder friend. There are no computer jobs atm (except for one I put my resume in for) and no moniez 2 move etc :S

Thought u had a job. It seems like you keep saying this over and over. I'm gonna start calling you Joel.
I guess u can take the kid out of nebraska, but u can't take the nebraska outta the kid. lolol
Contract work. It comes and goes...typically one will pay off bills and such. Pretty much all PHP/web contracts on the internet goes to people who can barely speak english (aka India) so it's not any use trying to get any work outside of the local area...which doesn't have much to go around. For some reason, every business likes to go over to the local shitty ISP that does web sites as well. Horrid sites...shitty service...etc. But this is a pretty conservative part of California and every business owner is super loyal to their business friends. It's hard enough to get ANY job around here because they prefer to hire their own (the people who grew up here).


Thanks for making sure to go out of your way to kick me when I'm down. It's not like I don't already feel like absolute shit that I can barely pay my bills already. Nope...the Vegan from San Francisco is clearly a class act and has to be a prick about it (which you seem to be more and more of as time goes by).

I was joking, sry it bothered u. I hope everything makes a turn for the better for you.

Have u tried to contact the ISP for gigs? It's likely they have more work than they can handle, or they may just throw clients ur way, cause ISPs hate to do any hand-holding, etc.

What are the common industries in ur neck of the woods? (pun intended)
Do you have any other part-time job? Have you thought about prostituting urself as a home computer repair guy? Likely you'll make contacts of ppl who are in business for themselves and they need a website, or need someone to tell them what they need, etc.

No ISP is gonna go to someone's home, so that could be an opportunity.

edit: Again, sry for the joke, it was a lil cold, but I thought u'd laugh at it. my bad.

GL

[KMS]

kms, it's done thru .dll hook injection(this method works without an sdk) i just have to wait for it to come out and then view it's Dependencies and API functions. thats all.

That's if they release the DLL, they could just compile the whole thing into the exe. I assume the reason for the DLL was to make an sdk possible.

If I was doing an ad-based game, I don't think I'd build a DLL, but they might cause they don't have much programmer time. Altho, even with a DLL I'm still unclear how it would work well (client server and menu options) without the sdk code, unless u adapted the code from the gore sdk.

It's still do-able w/o a dll, but it becomes a much more difficult problem as you'd have to hack the exe.

[Spyder]

I probably would have laughed at it if I wasn't completely stressed about the situation. Plus, I kinda thought the Joel analogy was as if I take money from other people...which is something I don't want to ever do. CBF living like that :S

Yeah I talked to the ISP awhile ago about it and they said they were on top of things. Meanwhile I have a friend who used to work there and talks to people who currently work there and they said that they have too much work and would love to give it out if their management would allow it. So seems to be some management greed and/or unrealistic expectations. They had a web developer spot open like a year and a half ago...I put my resume in and never heard back, so when I asked my friend about it he said that they closed that position and didn't interview it (creating more stress on the current developers who really aren't that good anyways, I think they're about forced to cookie cut every web site) and implied that there is some sort of financial mess there...probably due to bad management.


MOST jobs out here are with the indian casino. They aren't very good employers. They pay below the local average because there aren't that many jobs. I worked with them for awhile until I got a web developer / IT consultant job (which didn't last long because the guy who owns it decided to cut a bunch of jobs to save money and open another location for his coffee shop - which closed soon after - not many good business owners around here I guess?). The casino definitely works in their own world. They make boat loads of money but don't pay very much at all (BARELY above minimum wage) and the annual increase is something around 30 cents/hour. They like to say you move up quickly - but it's not truth in reality, your first and second claims to move (which you can only submit ONCE every 3 months (3 times max/year) AFTER working there 6 months) are always rejected (typically people don't move out of their start job for a year or two - and only into positions that are in constant need like cooks). I was trying to move up into IT, but I didn't know about this until I started in another position (I was a custodian working 10-4's/graveyards - meh!) and everyone was asking me WTF I was thinking given that you don't REALLY move up like it says on those "work here, we're wonderful!" banners :P If an IT position opened up, I'd probably go ahead and apply (since I like the head IT guy) but I know that recently they had an opening and filled it with an indian who has no experience in IT...so it's always an uphill battle with them.

The second largest employer is the hospital. I have yet to see anything in IT-related positions.


I do have my resume in with the county, which has a few ISS jobs open. That looks promising, but you never know with government jobs (which relies on government funding - and they like to hire local "born-n-raised", perhaps so people they hire don't move away after a year or two?). I think that it pays good for the area...ISS Level 1 is 2-2.5k/month and ISS Level 2 is up to 3.2k/month. I think I'll probably at least get an interview.


I'd prefer to pay my bills off before I move ($4k credit card debt due to car problems) ... but duno. Open to anything at this point, as long as I can make enough to live on my own since I wouldn't have anybody trustworthy to rent with unless my brother wanted to move with me.


The home repair guy thing is a good idea IMO. I thought about it a little over a year ago, but I was having a bunch of car problems at the time so I didn't think it'd be reliable enough...but things are fixed now, so I'll put more thought into it. I'll have to see who all is doing that around here. Maybe I'll just do geek squad crap...removing viruses, repairing basic problems, reformatting, etc. I'd prefer to have a laptop to take out with me, but I could always get one down the road. I'll look into that (Y) thx

[KMS]

Nah, wasn't even thinking about the taking money stuff, just the struggling part.

I think u could put up some fliers in coffee shops and such.

Like: your computer slow? You don't need a new computer, you just need a good cleaning.

get the MS cdkey first, backup all their data, re-install OS & apps, run msconfig and turn off all the services crap and startup stuff. Will run like a dream. Bring a bunch of software and stuff to get the job done. You wouldn't need a laptop, but u could prolly pick up a used one for $50.

edit: Can you ssh into your server? If so, you can always use an sshApplet on my site from anywhere with java to login:

https://www.linuxjava.net/sshApplet

[Stix]

they'll release the .dll as they do not have much choice from what i understand of their auto-update system. but anyway "bah" we are going to much into detail.

[Spyder]

edit: Can you ssh into your server? If so, you can always use an sshApplet on my site from anywhere with java to login:

https://www.linuxjava.net/sshApplet
This is what my host says about it on their site:

"We allow you to use the OpenSSH Protocol (using Jailed Shell) on all of our Shared servers to make it easier to develop and debug your files with such text editors as vim and nano. To request OpenSSH access, please E-Mail support with a copy of your photo ID. (No Daemons or Background processes allowed.)"

Would that work out? I don't know a lot about SSH (I've been meaning to learn about it though) ... and what would your applet do to help me with this stuff?

[KMS]

edit: Can you ssh into your server? If so, you can always use an sshApplet on my site from anywhere with java to login:

https://www.linuxjava.net/sshApplet
This is what my host says about it on their site:

"We allow you to use the OpenSSH Protocol (using Jailed Shell) on all of our Shared servers to make it easier to develop and debug your files with such text editors as vim and nano. To request OpenSSH access, please E-Mail support with a copy of your photo ID. (No Daemons or Background processes allowed.)"

Would that work out? I don't know a lot about SSH (I've been meaning to learn about it though) ... and what would your applet do to help me with this stuff?

ssh is pretty simple, and powerful at the same time.

It's just a terminal window, just like you see with Linux, or like a command window in Windows. This is also called a shell, and SSH just stands for Secure Shell. It's an encrypted method for remote login.

If you were logging in from home, you should just install Putty on Windows. Linux has a builtin ssh client.

The applet I gave u a link to, is just a way to login to your server from anywhere, as long as java is available in the browser. You could prolly also put Putty on a thumbdrive and take it with you as well.

For you, it would mostly just allow you to edit the files directly or to maybe run php on the files directly to debug. You can also use SSH to get upload/download files.

[Spyder]

Ahhh...so it doesn't have much to do with this computer cleaning stuff, right?

I've had a friend nagging at me for years to get into it...but I just haven't run into any situations where I needed it I guess :S

I reckon it would be more useful for if you have a dedicated server and can reboot it remotely with SSH, right?

[KMS]

Ahhh...so it doesn't have much to do with this computer cleaning stuff, right?

I've had a friend nagging at me for years to get into it...but I just haven't run into any situations where I needed it I guess :S

I reckon it would be more useful for if you have a dedicated server and can reboot it remotely with SSH, right?

Yea, but it's also handy to have ur server grab files for you. Lots of times, I'll want to download a file so I'll paste a link into the ssh terminal using "wget". It will download the file for me at usually blazingly fast. Then I'll download it from my server and not worry about getting disconnected in the middle and such. You can also run Xwindow applications like Firefox and such thru SSH (as long as you have a X server running on ur computer, Linux obviously has one, but u can install one for Windows too).