Athiests of America

[Spyder]

Interesting site. A HS friend of mine makes the comics. This is a site that the atheists will probably like best...and people who at least think a bit about religion/spirituality.

http://americanatheist.net/

I've only quickly ran through the articles, but they looked fine and interesting.

[Boombostik]

Allah forbid someone else's religious beliefs are different than yours.

[Saman]

Another typical atheists!

[Creative]

Yeah I cbf atheists. I've met many in high school even middle school and most of them are assholes. The ones I'VE met think they know everything, concerning everything.

[MasterOfPuppets]

I consider myself an agnostic. I act like an asshole to a bible-thumper friend of my brothers, because he's a goddamn idiot. He's 18, still smokes pot, gets drunk, and has stolen shit from our house (a $200 video mp3/mp4 player comes to mind, and my $50 cd player I had for 3 years - he stole that about a year and a half ago, ps2 game(s), etc., and tries to sleep with girls as young as 12. He came in one day and was spewing some bible shit because he knew thought I was atheist, he was like "Cody why are you an atheist?" I told him I was an agnostic; considering myself a seeker of the truth. He was like "Well, I've already found the truth." and I started flicking him off and he was like "why are you doing that" and I replied "oh I'm sorry I thought you were blind." it was awesome. Other countless ownings, include hacking his myspace and putting a bunch of pictures on it making fun of the bible (a pic of a bible with one those explicit material stickers on it, replaced his display pic with shitting dicknipples (you don't want to see this one btw.) a pic of a guy fucking a whale (real.) and a bunch of other awesome shit. For books, I put "I enjoy reading Science Fiction novels such as: The Bible" etc. It was awesome, lasted for a couple of hours, it was more of a prank than anything though.

The morale of the story: I don't want to hear your bible-thumping bullshit. You'd have better luck selling your story at a star trek convention or something.

There are some basic principles that I agree with; following rules and laws, having morals, etc. I believe more in a personal god (and the law of attraction lulz?) than I do a extra-dimensional god.

Also, some studies are showing that certain primeates are developing morals; thus concieving that morals are developed with evolution, and not by the might of god :(

I found a great webpage with some awesome quotes on it a few months ago on digg and bookmarked it http://www.vagabox.com/vagabox01.html

Here are some of my favorites:

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot



Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius, and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
~ Albert Einstein


A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.
~ Albert Einstein


Religion, comprises a system of wishful illusions together with a disavowal of reality, such as we find in an isolated form nowhere else but in amentia, in a state of blissful hallucinatory confusion.
~ Sigmund Freud

Saman, this is for you:

The ink of the scholar is holier than the blood of the martyr.
~ Prophet Muhammad

Favorite:

If god created us in his image we have certainly returned the compliment.
~ Voltaire

And there are a shitton more on the page, all are pretty great imo.

[Saman]

you fucking idiots have terrible memory imo.

[MasterOfPuppets]

btw,
I don't think primates could develop morals in the short time we have been observing them, but then again im not an expert :L
To clarify, I should have said they have found *traces* of morality. If a chimp is drowning, they will try to pull it out of the water, etc.

[MasterOfPuppets]

Lol, to counter saman's atheist drawing I drew something, I couldn't really think of anything too good though :(

The unfinished one I was going to draw a priest jacking off to nickelodeon lol.

[NinjaGator]

Well, Einstine did come from germany. It doesn't seem that surprising if he had a friend that was for nazis.

[Saman]

thats not what i was trying to imply, i was just saying becuase you are really academically smart( IE, Neils Bore) that does not give weight to social comments you make :L

[Spyder]

Yeah I cbf christians. I've met many in high school even middle school and most of them are assholes. The ones I'VE met think they know everything, concerning everything.
Modified because I've seen the same thing with people with your beliefs. You yourself have admitted that there are lots of people who try to impose their beliefs on you and others.

I always liked the Dogma quote about beliefs < ideas. I don't feel like looking it up atm though.

Anyways good stuff MOP

[Saman]

i think quoting people is overrated :L
I enjoy reading good quotes as the next guy to come along but tbh i hate when people quote some one to prove a point, esp when they dont know much about where that quote comes from

IE

once my friend was trying to push islam on me and he fucking quoted Nietzsche

[Creative]

Yeah I cbf christians. I've met many in high school even middle school and most of them are assholes. The ones I'VE met think they know everything, concerning everything.
Modified because I've seen the same thing with people with your beliefs. You yourself have admitted that there are lots of people who try to impose their beliefs on you and others. Well that shouldn't have been modified... at all. I said that yeah, but I was speaking of people who I met through church. If I didn't state that in the conversation at the time I said that, I apologize.

[Lead]

One of my favorite things I've seen on TV was when that remake of Planet of the Apes was coming out, and there was some magazine cover referencing it and evolution. They interviewed a typical midwestern brainwashed housewife who was complaining about how the general population seems to have accepted evolution in one form or the other.

She said something along the lines of people needed to stop blindly believing in evolution and have an open mind to seek the truth. She then put her hand on a bible and said people needed to read it because it contained the absolute truth.

It was probably the most goddamn gay thing I'd ever heard. That in one breath tells people to have open minds, and then the next tell people that a single ancient book is the absolute truth. So pretty much you only need to open your mind wide enough to fit a dollar store bible in it and then you never require any knowledge ever again. Also gay because it took place in a story about the remake of planet of the goddamn apes.

The thing is in general is that I CBF people that are in goddamn cults.

Pretty much all the mainstream established religious seem to have good points to them at their core. It is just the establishment that gays things up. It is like the general theme in Life of Brian, which was that religion at it's core was perfectly fine, the only real problem was organized religion. It is just the leaders in the church\mosque\whatever that fuck everything up. There is usually only a problem when you get people following a religious leader as some sort of representative of God instead of just being individuals.

Like I'm sure most Buddists are cool, but then you get someone like the Dali Lama who flys around the world reading fortune cookies to people, and trying to get cash donations so he can maybe one day hopefully buy weapons and fight a war with China or some bs like that.

[DESTRUCTION]

off topic:


hi2u lead.


k back on topic

[Saman]

whats wrong with speaking out against oppression?



Like I'm sure most Buddists are cool, but then you get someone like the Dali Lama who flys around the world reading fortune cookies to people, and trying to get cash donations so he can maybe one day hopefully buy weapons and fight a war with China or some bs like that.

[MasterOfPuppets]

whats wrong with speaking out against oppression?


Like I'm sure most Buddists are cool, but then you get someone like the Dali Lama who flys around the world reading fortune cookies to people, and trying to get cash donations so he can maybe one day hopefully buy weapons and fight a war with China or some bs like that.

Offtopic: Hi, Lead.

[Lead]

I'm probably inaccurate there to some point, but I recall reading about how at some point his fund raising adventures were found to be tied to resistance movements against China. My point though is you can have the good teachings and lessons in any religion. I'm sure the guy says lots of great things. But to me the problems appear to come when you get people who want to lead everybody. I just don't think a belief system needs a leader.

Also I thought the opportunity to describe the Dalai Lama as somebody who flies around the world to read fortune cookies to people was too hard to pass up. :L

[Spyder]

Great post lead...I agree with your points and find it equally funny.

[Saman]

"but I recall reading about how at some point his fund raising adventures were found to be tied to resistance movements against China."

A lot of what this guy is about is resistance movements against China. I don't personally see anything wrong with someone speaking out against wanton usurpation of his home country.



My point though is you can have the good teachings and lessons in any religion. I'm sure the guy says lots of great things. But to me the problems appear to come when you get people who want to lead everybody. I just don't think a belief system needs a leader.

Also I thought the opportunity to describe the Dalai Lama as somebody who flies around the world to read fortune cookies to people was too hard to pass up. mistar L face


I think that the world world sees the Dalai Lama as more of a social leader than a religious one, after all, this is the reason he was awarded the noble prize for. He (and the beasty boys :L) has helped bring the plight of the Tibetan people to international eyes. As far as his pseudo-prostelyzing is concerned, i can see how that would put some people off. But ultimately a lot of great men carry some pretty heavy luggage, after all Ghandi WAS racist :P

like him or hate him, at least the guy is not a suck up :P

[Lead]

I don't have anything against the guy, I just used him as an example that even someone like him who seems to be a pretty good guy can come with some strings attached.